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Friday, January 17, 2020

H. Napoleon Prince and Elizabeth Huckabee

James Gist Prince, Jr. was born to James Gist Prince, Sr. (DOB Bet. 1827-1830 in Union County, SC; DOD 11/5/1862 in Richmond, Henrico County, VA) and Nancy Angelina Johnson (DOB 4/10/1834 in Union County, SC James Johnson, Jr. and Dosia Ray; DOD 6/8/1915 in Union County, SC).

James and Nancy Angelina Johnson Prince had 5 sons: H. Napoleon Prince, Collins Swede Prince, Clarence Rhett Prince, Ralston Loranzo Prince, James Gist Prince, Jr.


Ralston Loranzo Prince and his wife are buried at Sandy Springs United Methodist Church Cemetery.


Stan is descended from Clarence Rhett Prince.

1850 U.S. Census of Union County, South Carolina; Roll: M432_859; Page: 3B; Image: 256, Lines 20-28, "Milly Prince"
Milly Prince, 66 yrs old, F(emale), W(hite), Head, Born in SC
Samuel Prince, 29 yrs old, M, W, Planter, $1,500 Real Estate Value, Born in SC
Gist Prince, 20 yrs old, M, W, Laborer, Born in SC, Attended school
Elizabeth Prince, 30 yrs old, F, W, Born in SC
Martha Prince, 27 yrs old, F, W, Born in SC, Cannot read or write
Prussia Prince (sic, Precia Prince), 25 yrs old, F, W, Born in SC
Lucinda Prince, 22 yrs old, F, W, Born in SC, Cannot read or write
William Wilbanks, 21 yrs old, M, W, Laborer, Born in SC
Simpson Malone, 15 yrs old, M, W, Laborer, Born in SC

1860 U.S. Census of Union County, South Carolina; Roll: M653_1227; Page: 194; Family History Library Film: 805227, Lines 32-40, "Gist Prince"
Gist Prince, 33 yrs old, M(ale), W(hite), Farmer, $2,000 Real Estate Value, $4,000 Personal Estate Value, Born in SC
Nancy Prince, 25 yrs old, F, W, Born in SC
Napoleon Prince, 6 yrs old, M, W, Born in SC
Colon Prince (sic, Collin Swede Prince), 4 yrs old, M, W, Born in SC
Clarence Prince, 3 yrs old, M, W, Born in SC
Ralston Prince, 5/12 mos old, M, W, Born in SC
William Prince, 75 yrs old, M, W, Farmer, Born in SC
Patsy Prince, 42 yrs old, F, W, Born in SC
Lucinda Prince, 35 yrs old, F, W, Born in SC
William Easter, 23 yrs old, M, W, Farm Laborer, Born in SC
William Barnett, 18 yrs old, M, W, Farm Laborer, Born in SC
Leonard (blank ?), 16 yrs old, M, W, Farm Laborer, Born in SC

H. Napoleon Prince was born 3/25/1854 in Union County, SC. (Aka Poly Prince) His father enlisted in the C.S.A. SC 18th Infantry Regiment, Co. C. as a Private. He was admitted on 10/6/1861 to the hospital and died 30 days later on 11/5/1862. Nancy Angelina Johnson Prince had a newborn baby and couldn't go to get his body. Polly Sparks, a family friend, took the train and brought his body back by wagon. He is buried somewhere in Padgett Creek Baptist Church cemetery. He has a stone that was installed much later and by then, no one knew where he had been buried. Nancy Johnson Prince married Henry Burnett (DOB Abt. 1844 in SC; DOD After 1880 in ? ) and they had Thomas Malcolm Burnett. Although she had inherited land from her father and her 1st husband, she and her children were destitute after the War. After Henry Burnett died, they lived with her sister, Paulina Johnson who married James William Burnett (1833-1864). She had also lost her husband and had 4 children. Paulina Johnson Burnett died 3/7/1908 in Cross Keys, Union County, SC. Nancy was living with her children as they grew up. Nancy Angelina Johnson Prince Burnett died 6/8/1915 in Union County, SC.


1870 U.S. Census of Cross Keys, Union County, South Carolina; Roll: M593_1510; Page: 359A; Family History Library Film: 553009, Lines 37-40, "Nancy Prince"
Nancy Prince, 34 yrs old, F (emale), W (hite), Farmer, $600 Real Estate Value, $150 Personal Estate Value, Born in SC, Cannot read or write
Napoleon Prince, 16 yrs old, M, W, At home, Born in SC, Attended school
Collins Prince, 14 yrs old, M, W, At home, Born in SC, Attended school
Retty Prince (Clarence Rhett Prince), 12 yrs old, M, W, At home, Born in SC
Rawlston Prince (sic, Ralston Loranzo Prince), 10 yrs old, M, W, At home, Born in SC
Gist Prince, 6 yrs old, M, W, At home, Born in SC, Born in SC

1880 U.S. Census of Cross Keys, Union County, South Carolina; Roll: 1242; Page: 454A; Enumeration District: 152, Lines 31-38, "Henry Burnett"
Henry Burnett, W(hite), M(ale), 35 yrs old, Head, Married, Farmer, Cannot read or write, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Father born in NC
Nancy A. Burnett, W, F, 45 yrs old, Wife, Married, Keeping house, Can read and write, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Malcum Burnett (sic, Malcolm Burnett), W, M, 9 yrs old, Son, At home, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Madora Burnett, W, F, 16 yrs old, Daughter, Single, Farm Laborer, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
William Burnett, W, M, 13 yrs old, Son, Single, Farm Laborer, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Ralston Prince, W, M, 20 yrs old, Son, Single, Farm Laborer, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Gist Prince, W, M, 17 yrs old, Son, Single, Farm Laborer, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Nancy Burnett, W, F, 65 yrs old, Mother, No occupation, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC

1900 U.S. Census of Cross Anchor, Spartanburg County, South Carolina; Roll:  T623_ 1541; Page: 12B; Enumeration District:  86, Lines 95-97, "Thomas M. Burnam" sic, looks like Thomas M. Burnett but is indexed by Ancestry.com as Thomas M. Burnam
Thomas M. Burnam, Head, W(hite), M(ale), Born July, 1872, 28 yrs old, Married 0 yrs (DOM 1900), Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Weaver at cotton mill, Can read and write
Alma Burnam, Wife, W, F, Born March, 1880, 20 yrs old, Married 0 yrs, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Weaver at cotton mill, Can read and write
Nancy J. Burnam, Mother, W, F, Born April, 1835, 65 yrs old, Single, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, 1 child with 1 still living, Can read and write

1910 U.S. Census of Cross Keys, Union County, South Carolina; Roll: T624_1474; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 0112; FHL microfilm: 1375487, Lines 14-18, "Clarence R. Prince"
Clarence R. Prince, Head, M(ale), W(hite), 52 yrs old, 1st Marriage, Married 33 yrs, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Miller/Farmer, Grist Mill, Can read and write, Rents farm
Alice E. Prince, Wife, F, W, 51 yrs old, 1st Marriage, Married 33 yrs, 3 children with 3 still living, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Victor C. Prince, Son, M, W, 27 yrs old, Single, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Laborer on home farm
Nancy Burnett, Mother, F, W, 74 yrs old, Widowed, 6 children with 4 still living, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Martha Briggs, Sister-in-law, F, W, 57 yrs old, Single, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC

Napoleon Prince married Elizabeth "Betty" Huckabee (aka Elizabeth Huckaby). She was born 7/20/1853 in GA to Jesse Emmanuel "Manuel" Huckabee (aka J.M. Huckaby) and Mary Jane Sanderson. This family has been very hard to follow and I'm still missing pieces. But for all the hours and hard work I've put in trying to find them, I knew I needed to share it and save someone else all this work.

1860 U.S. Census of Fort Hembree, Cherokee County, North Carolina; Roll: M653_892; Page: 2; Family History Library Film: 803892, Lines 5-10, "J.M. Huckabee"
J.M. Huckabee, 33 yrs old, M(ale), W(hite), Farmer, $200 Real Estate Value, $150 Personal Estate Value, Born in Buncombe County, NC
Mary J. Huckabee, 31 yrs old, F, W, Born in DeKalb County, GA
Eli C. Huckabee, 11 yrs old, M, W, Born in Jackson County, AL
Elizabeth Huckabee, 8 yrs old, F, W, Born in Fannin County, GA
Thomas G. Huckabee, 6 yrs old, M, W, Born in Cherokee County, NC
George V. Huckabee, 3 yrs old, M, W, Born in Cherokee County, NC

1880 U.S. Census of Cross Keys, Union County, South Carolina; Roll: 1242; Page: 453C; Enumeration District: 152, Lines 4-7, "Poly N. Prince" (sic)
Poly N. Prince, W(hite), M(ale), 26 yrs old, Head, Married, Farmer, Can read and write, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Elizabeth Prince, W, F, 25 yrs old, Wife, Married, Keeping house, Cannot read or write, Born in SC (sic), Both parents born in SC (sic)
Minnie E. Prince, W, F, 4 yrs old, Daughter, At Home, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Sally A. Prince, W, F, 1 yr old, Daughter, At Home, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC


Napoleon Prince and Elizabeth Huckabee had 9 known children:

1) Minnie Etta Prince (DOB 9/10/1876 in Union County, SC; DOD 12/17/1968 in Charlotte, Mecklenburg County, NC) married 1st James Ware (DOB Abt. 1862 in AL; DOD 1/14/1913 in Birmingham, Jefferson County, AL). They had:
     A) Lillian M. Ware (DOB 9/26/1902 in Birmingham, Jefferson County, AL; DOD 6/1991 in Charlotte, Mecklenburg County, NC) married Hinton Lee Baker (aka Henton Lee Baker) (DOB 6/26/1902 in Phoenix, Russell County, AL; DOD 9/9/1982 in Wilmington, New Hanover County, NC). They had Charles Lee Baker (DOB 8/25/1927 in GA; DOD 3/9/2017 in NC).
     B) Minnie L. Ware (DOB Abt. 1905 in AL; DOD ? in ? ) married ? .
She married 2nd Martin A. Wells (aka Martin A. Well) (3/30/1888 in NC; DOD Abt. 1960 in Six Mile, Pickens County, SC). No children.
She is buried at Silver Brook Cemetery, 1405 White Street, Anderson, Anderson County, SC.

2) James William Prince (aka Jesse William Prince) (DOB 10/8/1877 in Union County, SC; DOD 8/29/1960 in Greenville County, SC) married 1st Lola Robinson (DOB 3/29/1883 in NC; DOD 3/8/1929 in Greenville, Greenville County, SC). They had:
     A) Leila V. Prince (DOB 5/7/1904 in SC; DOD 3/1/1924 in Greenville, Greenville County, SC). She died of tuberculosis and was single.
     B) William Earle Prince (DOB 7/15/1906 in SC; DOD 7/18/1983 in ? ) married Myrtle Beatrice Phillips (DOB 8/6/1909 in Greenville County, SC; DOD 12/6/2007 in Greenville County, SC). They had William M. Prince (1930-1930), Wallace C. Prince, James Earle Prince, Sr.
     C) Bertha Lue Prince (DOB Abt. 1910 in SC; DOD ? in ? , she died before her mother died in 1929 but I couldn't find any death record so she may have died before they kept death certificates in 1913.)
     D) Jesse Hubert Prince (DOB 9/4/1911 in Greenville County, SC; DOD 2/13/1984 in Greenville County, SC).
Lola died of pneumonia and influenza and James William Prince married 2nd Minnie Gosnell (DOB 5/12/1895 in SC; DOD 9/15/1990 in Marietta, Greenville County, SC). They adopted Helen Prince (DOB Abt. 1924 in SC; DOD ? in ? ) married ? .

3) Sally A. Prince (DOB Abt. 1879 in Union County, SC; DOD ? in ? ). I could not place Sally A. Prince definitively after her listing with her family in the 1880 U.S. Census.

4) Annie Prince (DOB 4/1883 in Union County, SC; DOD 2/5/1972 in ? ) married 1st ? Riddle. They had:
     A) William Clarence Riddle Prince (DOB Abt. 1906 in SC; DOD Between 1953-1959 in Greenville County, SC) married Inez L. Osteen (DOB 12/23/1910 in SC; DOD 11/1982 in ? ). I was unable to find any obituary or death certificate for William Clarence Prince but I found Inez L. Osteen Prince living with him in Greenville, SC in a City Directory in 1953. Then I found her in 1959 living alone in Greenville. I think he died between 1953-1959 but it's also possible that they separated or divorced and he died unknown to me.
     B) Roy Maxwell Riddle Prince (DOB Abt. 1909 in Williamston, Anderson County, SC; DOD 10/4/1975 in Greenville, Greenville County, SC) married Lillian Shelby Austin (DOB 3/9/1921 in ? ; DOD 1/15/2008 in ? ).
Annie Prince is living with her mother and siblings in the 1910 U.S. Census but she's listed as Annie Riddle and William Clarence and Roy Maxwell were listed with her as William Clarence Riddle and Roy Maxwell Riddle. But the boys later went by William Clarence Prince and Roy Maxwell Prince. She indicates two things: 1) she was married at the time of the census but her husband is not living with her and their sons, and 2) it was her 2nd marriage. So my question is who was she married to first? What happened to Riddle? Since the boys changed their names it might be assumed he deserted the family.
Annie married 2nd Oliver "Ollie" Clinton Kelly (DOB 11/20/1891 in SC; DOD 2/10/1944 in Greenville County, SC). No children. Oliver was previously married to Dessie Holcombe and they had Lowell O. Kelly, Louise Kelly, Ruth Kelly.

5) Irene "Rene" Prince (DOB 1/1879 in Union County, SC; DOD 1/30/1973 in San Diego County, CA) married George Tidiman Penland  (some had it as Pendleton but it was Penland) (DOB 11/15/1875 in Del Rio, Cocke County, TN; DOD 4/19/1947 in Spartanburg, Spartanburg County, SC). They had:
     A)  Andrew Neal Penland (DOB 2/1/1895 in SC; DOD 12/15/1962 in Columbia, Richland County, SC) married Nellie Boyter.
     B) Ernest Albert Penland (DOB 8/5/1901 in Rockingham County, NC; DOD 10/9/1981 in San Diego County, CA) married ?
     C) Ralph Christopher Penland (DOB 4/18/1906 in Laurens County, SC; DOD 11/4/1965 in Durham, Durham County, NC) married Sara Elizabeth Hovis.
     D) Fred Walker Penland (DOB 2/5/1909 in Laurens County, SC; DOD 6/23/1949 in Gastonia, Gaston County, NC) married Gaither Victoria Holland.

6) Ira Prince (aka Irene Newell) (DOB 7/1885 in Union County, SC; DOD 4/3/1965 in Los Angeles County, CA) married Robert Clarendon Newell (DOB 4/21/1887 in SC; DOD 9/27/1963 in Orange County, CA). They had:
     A) Gerald Rhett Newell (DOB 8/1/1908 in SC; DOD 6/23/1981 in Orange County, CA) married ?
     B) James Homer Newell (DOB 6/17/1912 in Atlanta, GA; DOD 6/23/2001 in Los Angeles County, CA) married Alice Emily James.
     C) Robert Leonard Newell (DOB 6/9/1914 in Atlanta, GA; DOD 6/9/1982 in Los Angeles County, CA) married Dorothy Dolores James.
Ira Prince was VERY hard to follow as she was often referred to as Irene in records and she already had a sister named Irene. I wasted a lot of time looking for a woman MARRIED to an Ira Newell as that is usually a male name and she was referred to as Mrs. Ira Newell in family obituaries.

6) Clarence Cleveland Prince (DOB 8/7/1889 in Union County, SC; DOD 10/22/1961 in York County, SC) married 1st Eula Davis (DOB 1897 in Union County, SC; DOD 4/20/1929 in Selma, Johnston County, NC of Pellagra). They had:
     A) William Arthur Prince, Sr. (DOB 1/16/1914 in Greenville County, SC; DOD 10/23/1962 in Rock Hill, York County, SC) married Daisy Jennings.
     B) Sarah Aritta Prince (aka Sarah Arietta Prince) (DOB 7/2/1916 in Greenville County, SC; DOD 7/3/1965 in Rock Hill, York County, SC) married Cecil Crowder.
After Eula died, Clarence Cleveland Prince married 2nd Maude Zoa Bowen (DOB 9/28/1900 in NC; DOD 11/1983 in Laurens County, SC). They had:
     A) Loretta Prince (DOB Abt. 1934 in SC; DOD ? in ? ) married ?

7) Bertie Malvestia Prince (DOB 10/18/1889 in Union County, SC; DOD 5/10/1973 in Greensboro, Guilford County, NC) married James Joseph Arthur Wooten (DOB 1/27/1885 in SC; DOD 1/7/1947 in York County, SC). No known children.

8) Green Napoleon Prince (DOB 5/1892 in Laurens County, SC; DOD 7/31/1973 in Johnson City, Washington County, TN) married Susie Lee Johnston (DOB Abt. 1903 in AL; DOD 5/21/1941 in Muscogee County, GA). They had:
     A) Katie Mae Prince (DOB 5/13/1921 in AL; DOD 10/1991 in East Stroudsburg, Monroe County, PA) married Neal Stewart Rote (DOB 1/7/1922 in Lewisburg, Union County, PA; DOD 9/6/2007 in ? ).
     B) Grady Ned Prince (DOB 1/17/1927 in AL; DOD 1/26/2009 in Clark County, WA) married Rose Mildred Christensen (DOB 3/19/1923 in Lincoln, Lancaster County, NE; DOD 9/9/2005 in Tacoma, Pierce County, WA).

Poly Prince died 2/13/1892 in Union County, SC and is buried at Padgett's Creek Baptist Church, 843 Old Buncombe Road, Union, Union County, South Carolina, USA. Padgett's Creek Baptist Church was built between 1844-1848 and is still an historical church. A lot of the Prince family are buried there. I went years ago and took the photo of his gravestone. It was in bad shape then.

1900 U.S. Census of Reidsville, Rockingham County, North Carolina; Page: 16; Enumeration District: 0080; FHL microfilm: 1241215, Lines 43-50, "Elizabeth Prince"
Elizabeth Prince, Head, W(hite), F(emale), Born July, 1853, 47 yrs old, Widowed, 8 children with 8 still living, Born in GA, Father born in GA, Mother born in SC, Keep boarding house, Can read and write, Can read and write, Rents home
Annie Prince, Daughter, W, F, Born Apr, 1883, 17 yrs old, Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in GA, Cotton mill laborer, Cannot read or write
Irie Prince, Daughter, W, F, Born July, 1885, 14 yrs old, Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in GA, Cotton mill laborer, Cannot read or write
Clarence Prince, Son, W, M, Born Aug, 1887, 12 yrs old, Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in GA, Cotton mill laborer, Cannot read or write
Berta Prince, Daughter, W, F, Born Oct, 1889, 10 yrs old, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in GA,
Nepolion Prince (sic), Son, W, M, born May, 1892, 8 yrs old, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in GA,
George Penland, Boarder, W, M, Born Feb, 1879, 21 yrs old, Married 4 yrs, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC, Cotton mill laborer, Can read and write
Rener Penland, Boarder, W, F, Born Jan, 1879, 21 yrs old, Married 4 yrs, 2 children with 2 still living, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in GA, Cotton mill laborer, Can read and write
Drew Penland, Boarder, W, M, Born Feb, 1870, 30 yrs old, Single, Born in NC, Both parents born in NC, Cotton mill laborer, Can read and write
Andrew Penland, Boarder, W, M, Born Feb, 1897, 3 yrs old, Born in SC, Father born in NC, Mother born in SC
Lillian Penland, Boarder, W, F, Born Oct, 1899, 7/12 mos old, Born in SC, Father born in NC, Mother born in SC

1910 U.S. Census of Griffin Ward 1, Spalding County, Georgia; Roll: T624_209; Page: 17A; Enumeration District: 0117; FHL microfilm: 1374222, Lines 19-25, "Lizzie Prince"
Lizzie Prince, Head, W(hite), F(emale), 57 yrs old, Widowed, Born in GA, Both parents born in GA,
Can read and write, Rents home
Green Prince, Son, M, W, 17 yrs old, Single, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in Georgia, Weaver at cotton mill, Cannot read or write
Minnie Ware, Daughter, F, W, 33 yrs old, Widowed, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in GA, Weaver at cotton mill, Cannot read or write
Lillie Ware,  Daughter (sic), F, W, 7 yrs old, Single, Born in NC, Father born in NC, Mother born in SC
Annie Riddle, Daughter, F, W, 26 yrs old, 2nd Marriage, Married 10 yrs, 2 children with 2 still living, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in GA, Weaver in cotton mill
W.C. Riddle, Son, M, W, 4 yrs old, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC
Roy Riddle, Son, M, W, 1 yr old, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC

I could not find Elizabeth Huckaby Prince in the 1920 U.S. Census.

1930 U.S. Census of Lando village, Lewisville, Chester County, South Carolina; Roll: 2192; Page: 3B; Enumeration District: 0023; FHL microfilm: 2341926, Lines 55-57, "James A. Wooten"
James A. Wooten, Head, Rents home for $6, Owns radio set, M(ale), W(hite), 45 yrs old, Married at age 35 yrs old, Can read and write, Born in SC, Both parents born in SC, Overseer in weaving dept in cotton mill
Malvestia Wooten, Wife, F, W, 39 yrs old, Married at 29 yrs old, Can read and write, Born in SC, Father born in SC, Mother born in GA
Elizabeth Prince, Mother (sic), F, W, 76 yrs old, Widowed, Can read and write, Born in GA, Both parents born in GA

SC Death Certificate #8077, Registration District #(unreadable), Registered #53, Elizabeth Huckaby Prince, DOD 4/11/1937 in Rock Hill, York County, SC
F, W, Widowed, DOB 7/20/1853 in GA, 83 yrs old
Occupation: Housewife
Father: John Huckaby, born in GA
Mother: Huckaby, Born in GA
Informant: C.C. Prince in Rock Hill, SC
DOD 4/11/1937
Cause of death: Uremia, Contributing causes were arteriosclerosis and myocarditis
Buried: 4/12/1937 in Union County, SC

ElizabethHuckabyPrinceobitTheGreenvilleNewsGreenvilleSC4 12 1937Pg7 -
The Greenville News, Greenville, SC, 4/12/1937, Pg 7



Some of my sources for the children:

MinnieEttaPrinceWareWellsobitTheGreenvilleNewsGreenvilleSC12 20 1968Pg57 -
The Greenville News, Greenville, SC, 12/20/1968, Pg 57


GeorgeTidimanPenlandobitTheIndexJournalGreenwoodSC4 21 1947Pg8 -
The Index Journal, Greenwood, SC, 4/21/1947, Pg 8

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014
Name: Irene Penland
Social Security Number: 238-20-****
Birth Date: 22 Feb 1877
Issue year: Before 1951
Issue State: North Carolina
Last Residence: 92021, El Cajon, San Diego, California, USA
Death Date: Jan 1973

JamesWilliamPrinceobitTheGreenvilleNewsGreenvilleSC8 31 1960Pg6 -
The Greenville News Greenville, SC, 8/31/1960, Pg 6

LolaMayRobinsonPrinceobitTheGreenvilleNewsGreenvilleSC3 9 1929Pg13 -
The Greenville News Greenville, SC, 3/9/1929, Pg 13



AnniePrinceKellyobitTheGreenvilleNewsGreenvilleSC2 6 1972Pg39 -
The Greenville News Greenville, SC, 2/6/1972, Pg 39


RoyMaxwellPrinceobitTheGreenvilleNewsGreenvilleSC10 6 1975Pg10 -
The Greenville News, Greenville, SC, 10/6/1975, Pg 10

1910 U.S. Census of Atlanta Ward 6, Fulton County, Georgia; Roll: T624_192; Page: 22A; Enumeration District: 0088; FHL microfilm: 1374205, "Robert H. Newell" (sic) and "Ira Newell"

1920 U.S. Census of Taft, Orange County, Florida; Roll: T625_228; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 122, "R.C. Newell" and "Ira Newell"

1930 U.S. Census of Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California; Roll: 148; Page: 12A; Enumeration District: 0431; FHL microfilm: 2339883, "Robert C. Newell" and "Ira Newell"

1940 U.S. Census of Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California; Roll: m-t0627-00417; Page: 17A; Enumeration District: 60-367, "Robert C. Newell" and "Irene Newell"

California, Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Irene Newell
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 27 Jul 1886
Death Date: 3 Apr 1965
Death Place: Los Angeles

SC Death Certificate #61 015666, Clarance Prince (sic), DOD 10/22/1961 in McConnells, York County, SC (home)
M, W, Married to Maude Bowen Prince, DOB 8/7/1887 in Union County, SC, 74 yrs old
Occupation: Ret textile, Overseer of weave room
Father: Polie Price (sic), Mother: Elizabeth Huckbee (sic), Informant: Maude Bowen Prince
DOD 10/22/1961 at 5:15am
Cause of death: coronary occlusion
Buried: 10/24/1961 in Laurelwood, Rick Hill, SC

NC Death Certificate #18062, Registration District #4195, Local #644, Bertie Wooten, DOD 5/10/1973 in Oakhurst Nursing Home, Greensboro, Guilford County, NC
Former residence: 3903 Walke Ave, Greensboro, Guilford County, NC
F, W, DOB 10/18/1890 in SC, 83 yrs old, Widowed
Occupation: Domestic
Father: Napoleon Prince, Mother: Elizabeth Huckabee, Informant: Mrs. Ruth R. Wooten, 3903 Walker Ave, Greensboro, NC
DOD 5/10/1973 at 6:20pm
Cause of death: cerebral thrombosis due to general arteriosclerosis
Buried: 5/12/1973 in Laurelwood, Rock Nill, SC

JamesArthurWootenobitTheGreenvilleNewsGreenvilleSC1 9 1947Pg5 -
The Greenville News, Greenville, SC, 1/9/1947, Pg 5


1940 U.S. Census of Laurinburg, Scotland County, North Carolina; Roll: m-t0627-02974; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 83-5, "Green Prince"
Green Prince, Lodger (with Julia Brady), M(ale), W(hite), 42 yrs old, Single, Attended school thru 6th grade, Born in SC, Lived in Columbus, GA in 1935, Weaver in textile mill, $540 Income

1940 U.S. Census of Columbus, Muscogee County, Georgia; Roll: m-t0627-00697; Page: 17A; Enumeration District: 106-6, Lines 37-40, "Susie Lee Prince"
Susie Lee Prince, Head, M(ale), W(hite), 37 yrs old, Married, Attended school thru 8th grade, Born in AL, Lived in Phenix City, AL in 1935, battery filler in textile mill, $620 Income
Katie Mae Prince, Daughter, F, W, 17 yrs old, Single, Attended high school 2 yrs, Born in AL, Lived in Phenix City, AL in 1935, switchboard operator for telephone company, $560 Income
Grady Ned Prince, Son, M, W, 13 yrs old, Single, Attends school, Attended school thru 5th grade, Born in AL, Lived in Phenix City, AL in 1935
Lottie D. Ivey, Lodger, F, W, 50 yrs old, Widowed, Attended high school 2 yrs, born in GA, Lived in same place in 1935, practical nurse in private homes


GreenNPrinceobitTheGreenvilleNewsGreenvilleSC8 1 1973Pg8 -
The Greenville News, Greenville, SC, 8/1/1973, Pg 8

U.S., Army Transport Service, Passenger Lists, 1910-1939
Name: Green N. Prince
Departure Date: 15 Mar 1919
Departure Place: St Nazaire, France
Arrival Date: 27 Mar 1918
Arrival Place: Charleston
Residence Place: General Delivery, Greenville, South Carolina
Mother: Elizabeth C. Prince
Ship: MERCURY
Military Unit: Company G. 118TH Infantry
Rank: Private First Class
Service Number: 1,311,366
Notes: COMPANY "G" 118TH INFANTRY 30TH DIVISION
Record Group Number: 92; Roll or Box Number: 198

U.S., Department of Veterans Affairs BIRLS Death File, 1850-2010
Name: Green Prince
Birth Date: 22 May 1892
Death Date: 31 Jul 1973
SSN: 25807****
Enlistment Date 1: 7 May 1917
Release Date 1: 1 Apr 1919

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014
Name: Green Prince
Social Security Number: 258-07-****
Birth Date: 22 May 1892
Issue year: Before 1951
Issue State: Georgia
Last Residence: 37684, Mountain Home, Washington, Tennessee, USA
Death Date: Jul 1973

Georgia, Death Index, 1919-1998
Name: Susie J Prince
Gender: Female
Race: White
Age: 38
Birth Date: abt 1903
Death Date: 21 May 1941
Death Place: Muscogee, Georgia, USA
Certificate Number: 12543

FindAGrave.com
Susie J. Prince
BIRTH 1903
DEATH 1941 (aged 37–38)
BURIAL Lakeview Memory Gardens, Phenix City, Russell County, Alabama, USA
MEMORIAL ID 119392778

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Tuesday, January 14, 2020

Proverbs 6:6-11

Proverbs 6:6-11 (NKJV)  6 Go to the ant, you sluggard!
Consider her ways and be wise,
7 Which, having no captain,
Overseer or ruler,
8 Provides her supplies in the summer,
And gathers her food in the harvest.
9 How long will you slumber, O sluggard?
When will you rise from your sleep?
10 A little sleep, a little slumber,
A little folding of the hands to sleep—
11 So shall your poverty come on you like a prowler,
And your need like an armed man.

Proverbs 6:6-11 (NIV)  6 Go to the ant, you sluggard;
consider its ways and be wise!
7 It has no commander,
no overseer or ruler,
8 yet it stores its provisions in summer
and gathers its food at harvest.
9 How long will you lie there, you sluggard?
When will you get up from your sleep?
10 A little sleep, a little slumber,
a little folding of the hands to rest—
11 and poverty will come on you like a thief
and scarcity like an armed man.

Proverbs 6:6-11 (NLT)  6 Take a lesson from the ants, you lazybones.
Learn from their ways and become wise!
7 Though they have no prince
or governor or ruler to make them work,
8 they labor hard all summer,
gathering food for the winter.
9 But you, lazybones, how long will you sleep?
When will you wake up?
10 A little extra sleep, a little more slumber,
a little folding of the hands to rest—
11 then poverty will pounce on you like a bandit;
scarcity will attack you like an armed robber.

A sluggard is a person who is habitually inactive or lazy; an idle person; to be lazy, go slowly; an indolent and slothful person.

Sloth means reluctance to work or make an effort; laziness or a lack of effort; is one who makes no effort mentally, spiritually, and physically; apathy; inactivity; lethargic; indifferent to their duties and obligations; passive and inert.

Have you ever seen a busy lazy person? I mean, they make it their life's work to avoid working. They have all types of schemes and manipulations to get someone else to do the work for them. They use all their intelligence and shrewdness to get out of work! Yep, that's an habitually lazy person! Everyone around them has to pick up the slack because they can't rely on the lazy person to do their part. So those around a lazy person have to not only do their job but drag the other person behind them too. It's not fair.



King Solomon was a wealthy man and his children wouldn’t have to raise a finger for anything. But here is King Solomon advising his son not to be lazy. They had servants, money, armies, butt-kissers (excuse my language) who would have done everything for them. They wouldn't have to get out of bed. They didn't have to clothe themselves or bathe themselves. They didn't have to work a job or make their bed or take out the trash. But this father is warning his son about being lazy and a sluggard.

The title Groom of the Stool originates from the term “close stool,” which was the name for the king’s commode. A velvet covered stool with a hole and a door for removing the royal pot. It was portable and carried with the king so he had access wherever he was, in the castle or on trips. It was a prestigious position, the Groom was generally a nobleman not a simple servant. Because of the intimacy, he had the King's ear and had some influence. He was always with the king. This person likely worked hard to ensure his place in the king’s good graces, and this appointment allowed them to reap rewards. They were well paid. The duty was to assist the king/queen and then remove the contents of the privy pot. No king/queen would walk all the way outside to an outhouse. So chamber pots were used in the close stool. Some historians believe that the groom’s duties involved wiping the king’s bottom. If the king was handicapped, overweight, elderly then they probably did assist in his cleaning. Queen Elizabeth I employed a servant called Chief Gentlewoman of the Privy Chamber, who temporarily replaced the Groom of the Stool.

But King Solomon is telling his son not to be so lazy. He should get up and get to work! Don't let other people have to do what you can do yourself. You need to pay your own way in this world.

I have heard of children who won't get up to get ready for school. Their mothers (fathers or guardians) have to keep going back to wake them up, get them out of bed, make them get dressed, find their book bags and homework, etc. It's not fair for a parent to have to do that when it's the child's responsibility. Going to their room to wake them up is one thing but to have to keep going back to get the child out of bed and dressed and ready is another. Mother should do her job and child should do their job. Mom wakes them up and sets out their clothes. Mom makes breakfast and drives them to school (or gets them safely to the school bus). CHILD should be responsible for their homework, their book bags, their supplies, getting their teeth brushed, putting on their clothes and being ready to go at the right time. I'm not talking about a child who is too young, but by 7 yrs old they should be able to get themselves together. What the child has done is to put all the responsibility for THEIR day on someone else (Mom, Dad). That's not fair. Mom and Dad don't receive any reward for their child being on time and homework done so why should they be the one doing all the work?

A wise parent will try to teach their child how to do things for themselves and to encourage industry and productivity. They need to learn chores, how to be responsible for themselves. In the adult world, there aren't a lot of people interested in the job of "Groom of the Stool" anymore. Nobody in this world wants to do everything for you and give you a free ride. So it's best to learn early while you are young how to take care of yourself and how to be a team player.

King Solomon says it's best not to be a sluggard and to take the example of the ants.

Ants form colonies that range in size from a few dozen predatory individuals living in small natural cavities to highly organised colonies that may occupy large territories and consist of millions of individuals. All ant colonies have fertile males called drones, fertile females called queens. They are responsible for procreating. But there are also the worker ants, the soldier ants and other specialized groups. They operate as a team, collectively working together to support the colony. There are ants everywhere on the earth because they can live in nearly every environment. Because of their organisation and their ability to be flexible, tap natural resources and work together, they can live in different habitats. They have division of labor, ways of communication and an ability to solve common problems which makes them a good example of teamwork. They are active all year long in the tropics but in cooler regions, they are active in the warm season and survive the winter in an inactive state and therefore need stores to draw upon.


Ant hills are nests underground. Ants make extensive underground homes. Someone came up with the idea of pouring molten aluminum down an ant hole, letting it cool, then digging up the medal as a type of art. It shows the large and extensive system that we cannot see above ground. It takes a lot of work for tiny ants to make something like that.

And think about all that work lost when it rains or someone like me walks over it. I'm very allergic to fire ants and it's a curse here! So we are always looking for ways to kill them and end the ant nests. The ants just move over and start all over again. They never stop, they just start over. They don't have anyone making them do their work, they just do it.

I realize that there are people who have a lot of energy and they stay busy. A Type A personality who is always on the go. They seem to have their own motivation. There are people who don't have that much energy and stamina. They are born with a more lethargic temperament.



But that doesn't give us a license to give in and let everyone else do all the work. We should push ourselves to be productive and responsible, to do our share in this world. Being naturally lazy is not what's sinful. It's giving in to it and not fighting it. While you are lazing about and sleeping your life away, someone else is being productive and getting things done.

When someone has what you want, ask yourself if you worked for it like they did? Don't be mad at them and jealous if you didn't go after it yourself. Remember one of the Ten Commandments is, "Thou shalt not covet...".

My parents bought about 25 acres with my Dad's retirement money back in 1981. They allowed us to build our houses on the farm and helped us build them. We had to live in them while we built and finished them. Virtually camping out in them. It took us 3 years to build our original house from start to finish. We paid for it as we went and we did a lot of the work ourselves with the help of Dad and our brother-in-laws. The guys hadn't ever built anything so Dad had to teach them. We lived in an unfinished house for 3 yrs. It was only about 900 sq ft and I designed it myself so we didn't have to pay an architect. It was finished for 2 yrs and we wanted more square footage. So we more than doubled the square footage to 2400 sq ft. But we had to do it in stages and pay for it as we went. It took us 13 yrs to finish the add on and remodeling. So we lived in an unfinished state for 16 of the 19 years we lived on the farm. Meanwhile we were working and keeping the farm up. My husband worked a lot of overtime, went to school, took on side jobs and built a house! I helped all along the way. I worked, I did what I could in building the house and I kept the household running. We were able to purchase other land to add to the farm too. Each of us purchased other acreage. In the end we had 4 houses, barns and about 90 acres.

When I look back now on all that we did, it seems impossible. There was so much sacrifice, so much time, so much hard work. When we sold it we made enough to purchase a house that was very nice. We did extensive remodeling on it and then sold it and bought our "dream home" that was nearly 3,000 sq ft in a nice neighborhood. We had to downsize because our home was in the city limits and they built a brand new, humongous, state-of-the-art high school and the property taxes went up outrageously and we anticipate they will go up even more as they went way over budget. We had done a lot of hard work on that house but we recently sold it and downsized to a nice brick home of 1,700 sq ft and outside the city limits. None of it came easy. It was all hard work to build and maintain. I've mowed grass, cleaned house, done spring cleaning, washed windows, scrubbed mildew off of eaves, painted, removed wallpaper, put up wallpaper, etc just to keep our home nice. Stan has done far more with his skills, muscles and energy. So owning a house for us was never easy. We've had to make some hard choices and live with the results.

But I've heard someone say, "Why do they have the big house and I don't? It's not fair". I want to slap the sense in them! The person I'm talking about didn't have bad luck, they made their own bad luck. I.e. they spent their time partying, using their money on dope, cigarettes, liquor and women. They ended up paying lawyers and fines for DUIs. Their spouse left them and took their kids. They didn't pay their child support and then had to pay a lawyer and fines for non-payment of child support. They didn't go back to school to get a degree. They couldn't keep a job because of their partying. They wouldn't pay their bills and lost their credit rating so they couldn't get a car or rent a place. They ended up relying on everyone else to drive them around, buy their food, give them a place to sleep, etc. But somehow it wasn't fair that those of us who worked hard, sacrificed, raised their families, paid their taxes and bills had a nice home?!?



Unfortunately, that's the way a lot of people are now. They expect the taxpayers to pay for them to sit at home and do nothing. They expect the taxpayers to build them a nice place to live, to give them money for food, to give them a cell phone and color TV, to provide transportation and medical care. And not only do they expect it, they aren't grateful for it and many trash the very things they are given. Our government is punishing those who work hard and pay their way by taking their money away in the form of taxes to give to those who refuse to work and pay their own way. Don't get me wrong, if someone is truly disabled and elderly, they need the help and I'm not averse to that at all. But there are too many able bodied people who have grown up in the system and who know all the ins and outs to get free stuff from the government. They can be dumb as a post about working but smart as a whip about getting something for free. They are wiley, shrewd, and smart when it comes to getting government assistance and taking advantage of the system but can't lift a finger to go to work.

Be one who takes advantage of opportunities. Like the ants take advantage of the warmer season. "Make hay while the sun shines". Maybe you think you don't have any opportunities. Here in America we usually have opportunities. For instance, public school. A child can attend school through high school without having to pay for it. If you are financially unable, they will even give you free breakfast and lunch. There are school buses that come to pick you up if your family doesn't have a car. That's an opportunity every child can take advantage of. What you learn, no one can take away from you. So apply yourself and learn all you can. There are scholarships for those who have good grades and have applied themselves in school so you might can get a free college education. That's an opportunity! Maybe you have television. Instead of wasting your time on cartoons and Jerry Springer, watch shows on history, jobs (such as the Ice Road Truckers, Dirty Jobs, home improvement shows, etc), learning shows. That's an opportunity! If you have access to the internet check out podcasts and learning videos. That's an opportunity! If you can read, use the public library for reading free books! That's an opportunity! If you have a healthy body, strength, and can breath... that's opportunities! Use those assets to get ahead! That's an opportunity! Don't waste your time, your youth, your strength and energy, your assets. Use them and take advantage of the opportunities!

Do what is necessary to get where you want to be. Be diligent and persistent without someone holding your nose to the wheel. An ant is diligent and persistent and they never quit no matter what catastrophe wipes out their hard work. They just start again.

Some people can’t seem to connect the negative consequences they experience to the poor decisions they make. It's irrational. They will choose a poverty induced lifestyle rather than put forth the effort to do better for themselves. They will live in a hovel, a nasty mess, because they won't do anything about it. They have made the choice to live like that rather than exert the effort to make their home a better place. That is a choice they make. Even if you live in a tent, you don't have an excuse to be nasty! You can still take trash to a trash can, use a cheap bar of soap to clean yourself with or sweep a floor. I know there are people who may be physically unable to do things for themselves due to health problems and age, and I'm not talking about them. There are places in this world where it may be very difficult to live cleanly. But in America, there is rarely an excuse. You can go into a bathroom at McDonalds and wash your face and hands for free. You can get help in many ways. When I see people who are able to walk all over town pushing a buggy cart full of junk and able to stand for hours panhandling by the roadside, I have to wonder why they don't have the energy to work a job or to keep themselves and their habitation cleaner? Someone owned a piece of property on Main St. The property isn't worth much as it's just a massive ditch filled with scrub brush and trees. They've bought and paid for it and pay the taxes on it. But a couple of years ago some vagrants took up tent residence on it back in the trees. This group had made a filthy mess back in there. Trash everywhere and they were panhandling on the road. The owner had to pay to have bulldozers come in and clean out the vegetation so they could get rid of the vagrants. Their insurance was insistent, as was the city. So, at their own expense, they had to clean it out. The vagrants just walked away and I'm sure they took up residence somewhere else. But we were amazed at the filth they left. Shredded tents, human waste, trash! If they made the mess, why shouldn't they have to clean it up?

When you watch hoarding TV shows, you see people who are, or were, able to put the trash in the trash can and take the trash for disposal. They are able to empty their refrigerator regularly and wash their dishes. They are able to do regular maintenance in their home and hygiene for themselves but they simply don't. They are sluggards, slothful. They would rather live in the filth with the bugs and rats than clean up after themselves. It ends up making the home uninhabitable, destroys the surrounding neighborhood which lowers the other property values, and costs taxpayers for cleanup. How fair is that? I clean my house. I take out my trash. I vacuum and mop my floors. I make sure my yard is presentable. So how fair is it for the government to take my money and pay to clean someone else's house and yard up? It's not!

This is why God says that sloth is a sin.

Sloth is one of the seven deadly sins, aka cardinal sins or capital sins (pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath and sloth).

Spiritual sloth
It's not just about being lazy and not getting a job.

Why is sloth a sin? Because a slothful person refuses to take the trouble to get to know God. They see spiritual things as boring and not worth the trouble. They are apathetic about their relationship with God. They no longer have any zeal and have lost their first love because they see it as too hard. They have an aversion to God and see the Christian life as laborious, boring, joyless. There is no joy in seeking God, but rather indifference, an inertness. They lack the power to move and have no motivation to seek God and follow His Ways. They don't want to spend any energy towards God.

A person who is a workaholic can still be slothful. They are slothful when it comes to God. They can bury themselves in activity and work so they can avoid God. In today's world there are a thousand things that can take our attention away from the Lord and we let them. From the time we wake up until we fall into bed to sleep, there is almost never a moment of silence or a time when we are not being bombarded by images, often flickering and quickly changing. We are constantly overstimulated and it's removing our ability to focus on God. We can't focus. We can't sit still in silence for one minute. We can't keep our mind still enough to pray. We can't understand what we are reading because our mind is jumping to something else. We get bored if we sit still without the TV on. Thought and meditation seems beyond our ability because we can't sit down, shut up and be quiet for even a minute.

Spending time with God requires quiet time. We must have time to dialogue with God in prayer without interruption. We must have time to read His Word without someone or something else clamoring for our attention. We need to concentrate. We need to have time to ponder, reflect, think and meditate on what we learn in His Word. We need some praise and gratitude time. We need to be able to get ourselves together and go to church and place our attention on God for that few hours each Sunday.

If we aren't doing these things, then we are being spiritually slothful. In today's world, all of this take effort. It means we have to get up and make the time for God. It means we have to force ourselves to concentrate and focus. It means we have to shut out the distractions and do it. This is overwhelming for Americans today. They may even make it to church on Sundays but they are just sitting there being spoon fed the Word. They aren't making an effort, they are passive. I can only feel sorry for the pastors who can't get their congregations to move in any way or direction. It must be so frustrating! No matter how much cheering and rah-rahing the pastor does on Sunday, the people just sit there and sleepily blink, watching their watch to see how much time they have left before they can get back in their car and go home.

When we decide that God is worth it, then we will begin to make the effort. It's not easy, but let me tell you... the more you spend time with God, the more time you want to spend with Him. Before long you look forward to that quiet time with Him. You begin to treasure your time with Him. You begin to be excited about what you are learning. It's no longer a duty or a chore, it's a wonderful time! But it starts with you having to make the effort. It will feel like all hell breaks loose when you try to have your quiet time. Satan doesn't want you to spend time with God so he will try everything to stop you. It will take all your effort to concentrate. But as you begin, you will find the Holy Spirit comes alongside and helps you so that your effort isn't wasted. Remember the children of Israel at the Red Sea? The Egyptians were coming and they had nowhere to go. They had to gather their families, pick up their bundles and walk to the shore and stick their foot in the water. Then the water dashed back and towered in walls on either side of them and they were able to walk on dry land to the other side! Make the effort and be consistent. Then wait for walls of water to part!


  • Define a sluggard and a sloth.
  • Have you been lazy at times? Was it fair to the others around you? Was it worth it?
  • Have you missed opportunities because of sloth? Did you not realize they were opportunities? Can you name some missed opportunities that you regret?
  • Look at the ant again and journal about their characteristics and how they work.
  • Have you been jealous, covetous of what others have? Do you realize how hard they work (and are working) to have what they have? Are you willing to do that? What kind of sacrifice and hard work are you willing to do?
  • Have you been relying on someone else to do the work so you can be lazy? Your parents, spouse, co-workers, classmates, friends, taxpayers? Put yourself in their place and journal how you would feel. How fair is it?
  • Have you been spiritually slothful?  Have you neglected God for other things? Journal what you think it means to be spiritually slothful.
  • Can you see why sloth is wasteful? Wasting our time and effort on passing worldly things with no value and no heavenly reward? 
  • Have you lacked motivation to spend time with God? How do you think you can get your zeal back, your motivation to propel you back into God's loving arms? He is always there, ready for you.
  • Can you trust the Holy Spirit within you to help you as you begin to make the effort?



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Monday, January 13, 2020

Proverbs 6:1-5

Proverbs 6:1-5 (KJV) 1 My son, if you become surety for your friend,
If you have shaken hands in pledge for a stranger,
2 You are snared by the words of your mouth;
You are taken by the words of your mouth.
3 So do this, my son, and deliver yourself;
For you have come into the hand of your friend:
Go and humble yourself;
Plead with your friend.
4 Give no sleep to your eyes,
Nor slumber to your eyelids.
5 Deliver yourself like a gazelle from the hand of the hunter,
And like a bird from the hand of the fowler.

Proverbs 6:1-5 (NIV) 1 My son, if you have put up security for your neighbor,
if you have shaken hands in pledge for a stranger,
2 you have been trapped by what you said,
ensnared by the words of your mouth.
3 So do this, my son, to free yourself,
since you have fallen into your neighbor’s hands:
Go—to the point of exhaustion—
and give your neighbor no rest!
4 Allow no sleep to your eyes,
no slumber to your eyelids.
5 Free yourself, like a gazelle from the hand of the hunter,
like a bird from the snare of the fowler.

Proverbs 6:1-5 (NLT) 1 My child, if you have put up security for a friend’s debt
or agreed to guarantee the debt of a stranger—
2 if you have trapped yourself by your agreement
and are caught by what you said—
3 follow my advice and save yourself,
for you have placed yourself at your friend’s mercy.
Now swallow your pride;
go and beg to have your name erased.
4 Don’t put it off; do it now!
Don’t rest until you do.
5 Save yourself like a gazelle escaping from a hunter,
like a bird fleeing from a net.

Proverbs 6:1-5 (CEV) 1 My child, suppose you agree
to pay the debt of someone,
who cannot repay a loan.
2 Then you are trapped
by your own words,
3 and you are now in the power
of someone else.
Here is what you should do:
Go and beg for permission
to call off the agreement.
4 Do this before you fall asleep
or even get sleepy.
5 Save yourself, just as a deer
or a bird tries to escape
from a hunter.

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
you have put up security - עָרַ֣בְתָּ (arab, ‘ā·raḇ·tā) - Verb - Qal - Perfect - second person masculine singular
Strong's Hebrew 6148: To braid, intermix, technically, to traffic, give to be security
Brown-Driver-Briggs English Hebrew Lexicon adds: take on pledge, give in pledge, exchange; go surety for the debts of

for your neighbor - לְרֵעֶ֑ךָ (rea, lə·rê·‘e·ḵā) - preposition-l | Noun - masculine singular construct | second person masculine singular
Strong's Hebrew 7453: Friend, companion, fellow
Brown-Driver-Briggs English Hebrew Lexicon adds: fellow, fellow-citizen, even another person,, with whom one stands in reciprocal relations

if you have struck hands in pledge  תָּקַ֖עְתָּ (taqa, tā·qa‘·tā) - Verb - Qal - Perfect - second person masculine singular
Strong's Hebrew 8628: To clatter, slap, clang, to drive, to become bondsman

"The lending of money on interest to any poor Israelite was strictly forbidden (Leviticus 25:35-37); the people were enjoined to be liberal, and lend for nothing in such cases. But at the time of Solomon, when the commerce of the Israelites had enormously developed, and communications were opened with Spain and Egypt and (possibly) with India and Ceylon, while caravans penetrated beyond the Euphrates, then the lending of money on interest for employment in trade most probably became frequent." Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers

This advice is "directed against the inconsiderate and rash undertaking of such an obligation. There were some occasions on which becoming surety for another was demanded by the laws of charity and prudence, and when it was not inconsistent with the humane precepts of the Mosaic Law as enunciated in Leviticus 19:19. In other passages of our book the writer of the Proverbs lays down maxims which would clearly countenance the practice (Proverbs 14:21; Proverbs 17:17; Proverbs 18:24; Proverbs 27:10)..." - Pulpit Commentary

The "striking of the hand" indicates the completion of a contract much like our "handshake". “Surety” means becoming legally liable for the debts or default of another person. By becoming surety, you are legally obligating yourself to pay the debt if that other person proves himself unable or unwilling to do so. By agreeing to take on this responsibility, you have made yourself vulnerable to the other person. The advice here is to go to this person and ask to be removed as co-signer on their debt. You shouldn't rest until you make every effort to get out from under this commitment. Humble yourself and be willing to plead and beg.

This is advice, not a commandment. There are times when it's OK to be a co-signer. But you should be careful and not enter into anything lightly. Know the person well. And, certainly, don't do it if you don't have the means to do it. Don't endanger your needed income or assets by using them as collateral for someone else. I.e. you wouldn't want the bank to come after YOUR home or wages that you need to eat and pay bills with. If you have something you can lose without hardship, then you can afford to be more generous. Let's say that you have enough money in the bank and you are paying your bills just fine on your salary/wages. But a family member has a hard time and needs help. If you trust that family member (you know them well), then you might consider being a co-signer because if the family member defaults, you have the money to cover it without it costing you your house or food out of your family's mouth.

The point is to think about it carefully and use wisdom before striking any deal that could go sour and leave you paying it off. If you know the person to be irresponsible, immature, perpetually in financial problems because of poor decisions or work ethics... then you probably shouldn't be a co-signer on their debt. It doesn't mean you don't love them, it means you are using wisdom. Sometimes we tend to rush in and play Holy Spirit. We end up getting in the way of the Holy Spirit because we think we can do a better job.

For example, maybe your college age child is not mature enough to go away to college. They can't pay their way. They haven't applied for any financial assistance, they haven't kept good grades in order to get scholarships, they have never worked a job before and now they are graduating high school and looking to YOU to pay their way to college. They are an adult now but still expecting you to pay for college for them. If you haven't been saving for their college education, and you can't afford it either, then DO NOT co-sign for them on college loans. They either get it and pay for it themselves or they don't go to college. But many parents think their child HAS to go to college so they end up co-signing on college loans. The child can't, or won't, make the payments and now Mom and Dad have endangered everything they've worked for and have to pay college loans. What Mom and Dad did was jump in and play Holy Spirit in order to provide a college education for their child. But their child wasn't ready for it and God knows much better what is right for each individual. They may need some discipline and some real world education before they realize the importance of a college education. Or maybe they are one of those who doesn't need a college education to be successful! A college education doesn't guarantee success, happiness, health and wellbeing. God knows things we don't and we need to let Him provide, protect, lead and guide. We shouldn't jump in and play God, thinking we know best. College loans are predatory. These predatory lenders are not looking at your child to fulfill and pay the loans. That child has no job, no assets, no savings. They know perfectly well, if they get Mom and Dad to co-sign, then they can come after Mom and Dad for the fulfillment of the loan. And Mom and Dad have more money and assets that can be taken if the loan is defaulted. They would much rather have a few years of payments and then, when the loan is defaulted, they get to take Mom and Dad's house that's nearly paid for. They raise the interest rates sky high if the payment is late. Before you know it the loan has doubled, tripled because of the high interest rates. Don't fall into it unless you know you child is responsible, has a good work history and you feel God leading you to do it. Don't play God and get in God's way. But be led by God to do what God says to do. Pray, think carefully and don't co-sign for a loan if you don't have an easy way to pay it back.

If you know someone is irresponsible and not trustworthy, don't co-sign for them to get a new car. Because more than likely they won't make the payments and you end up making the payments on a car they are driving because you don't want it to ruin your credit rating. Make sure you aren't playing God. God knows whether or not they are ready for a car or maybe they need to hoof it for awhile until they learn to appreciate a car. God knows them and has the wisdom to make the right decisions for them. Don't get in His way and try to takeover and make it happen by co-signing on a loan. Even if they are family or they have a hard luck story, don't do it unless you really feel God is leading you to do it.


  • Have you ever asked someone to co-sign a loan for you? How did it work out? Were you the responsible one and you made the payments and paid the loan off? Or were you the irresponsible one who let someone else pay your debt for you? Why did you ask someone to co-sign? Was it a legitimate reason? Did you have the ways and means to pay off the loan without resorting to the co-signer? Why did you need the loan? Was it worth it? Did you use the money well?
  • Have you ever co-signed on a loan with someone? How did it work out? Why did you do it? Why did they need the loan to begin with? Did they use the money well or was it wasted? Did you end up having to make payments or pay the loan off? How did it make you feel?
  • If you have lost money by co-signing for someone else, were you angry? Hurt? Bitter? Have you been able to deal with the loss by forgiving them? Or have you held it against them? I'm not judging, I know it would be only human to be angry. But God does instruct us to forgive and not carry that anger around with us. He tells us He will deal with those who have taken advantage of us. It's not that we forget but we don't carry bitterness and anger about it. So begin to pray that you will be able to forgive and let it go. If you are a Christian, the Holy Spirit is in you and can empower you to do what God commands you to do... forgive. It's not in our power to do it. But God in us can help us. You are praying God's Will if you are praying for God to help you forgive that person. In time, as you continue to pray, that forgiveness will work through and you will find you have forgiven and you have let it go. Release it and trust God to be your recompense. God will provide financial blessing to cover the loss if you obey His command to forgive. Let it go, let God deal with them and let God heal you and release blessing to you.



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Sunday, January 12, 2020

Proverbs 5:21-23

Proverbs 5:21-23 (NKJV)  21 For the ways of man are before the eyes of the Lord,
And He ponders all his paths.
22 His own iniquities entrap the wicked man,
And he is caught in the cords of his sin.
23 He shall die for lack of instruction,
And in the greatness of his folly he shall go astray.

Proverbs 5:21-23 (NIV)  21 For the LORD sees clearly what a man does,
examining every path he takes.
22 An evil man is held captive by his own sins;
they are ropes that catch and hold him.
23 He will die for lack of self-control;
he will be lost because of his great foolishness.

Proverbs 5:21-23 (NLT)  21 For the LORD sees clearly what a man does,
examining every path he takes.
22 An evil man is held captive by his own sins;
they are ropes that catch and hold him.
23 He will die for lack of self-control;
he will be lost because of his great foolishness.

Hebrews 4:13 Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight; everything is uncovered and exposed before the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.

Jeremiah 29:23 For they have committed an outrage in Israel by committing adultery with the wives of their neighbors and speaking lies in My name, which I did not command them to do. I am He who knows, and I am a witness, declares the LORD.

Do we really think that the one who created us does not see what we do and does not know what we think or say?

Psalm 139:13-16 (BSB)  13 For You formed my inmost being;
You knit me together in my mother’s womb.
14 I praise You,
for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.
Marvelous are Your works,
and I know this very well.
15 My frame was not hidden from You
when I was made in secret,
when I was woven together
in the depths of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my unformed body;
all my days were written in Your book
and ordained for me
before one of them came to be.

Luke 12:6-7 (BSB)  6 Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? Yet not one of them is forgotten by God. 7 And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. So do not be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.

The one who knows every hair on your head, knows all.

Psalm 139:1-4 (BSB)  1 O LORD, You have searched me
and known me.
2 You know when I sit and when I rise;
You understand my thoughts from afar.
3 You search out my path and my lying down;
You are aware of all my ways.
4 Even before a word is on my tongue,
You know all about it, O LORD.

When WE make wrong choices and WE make wrong decisions and WE choose to sin and disobey God, then WE pay the consequences. When we sin, there are consequences. The worst consequence is being separated from God and eternal damnation!

Romans 6:12-14, 19-23 (NLT)  12 Do not let sin control the way you live; do not give in to sinful desires. 13 Do not let any part of your body become an instrument of evil to serve sin. Instead, give yourselves completely to God, for you were dead, but now you have new life. So use your whole body as an instrument to do what is right for the glory of God. 14 Sin is no longer your master, for you no longer live under the requirements of the law. Instead, you live under the freedom of God’s grace... 19 Because of the weakness of your human nature, I am using the illustration of slavery to help you understand all this. Previously, you let yourselves be slaves to impurity and lawlessness, which led ever deeper into sin. Now you must give yourselves to be slaves to righteous living so that you will become holy.
20 When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the obligation to do right. 21 And what was the result? You are now ashamed of the things you used to do, things that end in eternal doom. 22 But now you are free from the power of sin and have become slaves of God. Now you do those things that lead to holiness and result in eternal life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord.

The wages (or consequences) of sin is death, eternal death, separation from God. Praise God, we can repent and ask for forgiveness and God is ready to forgive! We can be saved by accepting Jesus as our Savior and accepting His forgiveness! But there are other consequences that may not disappear. We have to deal with what we've done and it won't be a piece of cake. Once we are saved, God gives us the Holy Spirit to enable us and empower us to live in this world. So we have a builtin power to help us. And, God redeems all situations for His children. They can be used to our good.

Let's say that we've committed the sin of alcoholism. Drinking an alcoholic drink is not a sin. It's the lack of self control that lets us drink to drunkenness that is sinful. Drunkenness is a sin, addiction to alcohol is a sin (because alcohol becomes god in an alcoholic's life). Drunkenness can also lead to other sins. It removes inhibitions and you are doing other sins without thought such as drugs, sex, cursing, fighting, etc. You are hurting others around you. So lack of self control, idolatry and the sins that follow inebriation are the sins that cause consequences in your life. You may lose your job, lose your family, lose self respect, lose dignity, lose money, lose opportunities, lose your license, lose a fight, land in jail, cause an accident, etc. These are all real consequences that follow a drunk. Now, let's say that drunk hits rock bottom and realizes that he has no control over alcohol or over his life with alcohol. So he turns to God and he sincerely repents. He realizes he's wrong and he is causing untold damage to himself and others. He needs help so he reaches out to God. He prays and asks for forgiveness and accepts Jesus Christ as his Savior. His sins are forgiven and he is going to heaven. But he is still haunted by the consequences of his bad choices. His wife may never come back, his children may never forgive him, he may still have to pay that DUI, he may still have to face jail time, etc. But he now has the Holy Spirit to help him and He has God on his side to help redeem his situation. It could be that God speaks to his wife and she goes back to him in time and their marriage is better than ever! It could be that God speaks to his children and his children forgive him! It could be that he meets a friend in jail that will help him in his new walk with Christ. It could be that he will find an even better job. And usually, an alcoholic is always tempted by alcohol, even if he/she is saved. They have that weakness and they really struggle with it. God can use that struggle to make them compassionate towards others. He may use it to keep someone humble. He may use it to keep someone dependent on Him (which is a great blessing!). As long as the alcoholic keeps coming back to God, God will forgive and will use all things to make them a better child of God. They may still be a drunk, but they are a drunk who realizes their spiritual poverty without God and realizes their total dependence on God. They realize they are a sinner and it's only through Jesus that they are saved. Let's face it, there are many people out there that think they are so superior and such a good person that, of course, they are saved. That kind of pride will be what excludes them and all along they thought they were saved! Those who are saved are those who realize they are sinners deserving of hell but Jesus Christ has forgiven them and He paid the price so they wouldn't go to hell!

Matthew 5:33 (Jesus speaking) “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

We must realize that all our good deeds are nothing but so many filthy rags and we must be desperate for a Savior and reach out to Jesus. He loves us and is calling us. We must respond. We must believe He died for us and saved us. It is His work only that gives us salvation and forgiveness. It is only God's mercy and grace that saves us. Someone who struggles with their sin, and feels helpless, will realize they are "poor in spirit" and they will reach out to God. It is to those who are promised the kingdom of heaven!

So, our choices to sin can entangle us and cause us to be in bondage to that sin whatever it is. I've mentioned alcoholism but it can be any sin that we have a weakness for: gossip/slander, drug addiction, sex outside of marriage, homosexuality, pride, maliciousness, etc. These verses say that no only does God already know all about it, but we've allowed ourselves to become enslaved to it. All day long we think of who we can tell the latest gossip to. All day long we think about how to get drugs. All day long we think about having sex. All day long we think about how wonderful we are and how superior we are to others. Self righteous, better-than-thou, stuck up people who judge others. All day long we plan on how to hurt someone with malicious words and deeds. Maybe it's on the internet and we are mean on facebook. Maybe we are one of those who maliciously likes to spread stories, pictures, cruel words about others. Maybe we like hacking into other's finances and destroying and stealing. Maybe we like to go through neighborhoods and steal mail and try to use it to steal their identity. Maybe we like conning people in order to steal from them. We spend all our time coming up with new cons, new schemes, new ways to steal and hurt and destroy someone's life because we like playing god. We are either planning it, preparing it, doing it or bragging about it. We've become enslaved to our sins and our sins rule us. Our whole life revolves around that sin.

If you don't turn to God, you will die in your sin and face the eternal consequence of judgment. God says that letting ourselves get enslaved with sin is foolishness and only has one end, you will die in it.

There is only one person who can save you and that is Jesus Christ. All of us have sinned and fallen short of God's glorious plan. I'm no better than you and vice versa. We are born with a sinful nature and we indulge it and sin from beginning to end. But, Jesus Christ paid the price for our sin and He alone saves. You can turn to Him and ask Him to be your Savior and to forgive you of your sins. Otherwise, you will die for lack of self-control; you will be lost because of your great foolishness.

This is the end of Proverbs 5 so let me say a few last words before moving on. This chapter was a father giving advice to his son (and could be the same if it was a mother giving advice to her daughter) about not following after a seducing woman/man. The advice is to avoid such immoral people because the end result are consequences you don't want to have.

But this can also be seen as God telling His people not to follow after the seductions of satan. Satan loves to tempt us to sin. He advertises and labels sin as anything but bad. He wants you to believe you can have fun, be the life of the party, be everyone's buddy, have the best girls, live in luxury if you will just sin. He never shows you the aftermath of destruction that sin does. He carefully hides that from you because if you saw the full horror of where you were headed, you would run! But God warns us! God tells us the truth. God lets us know, bluntly, that the end result is death, judgment, and the Lake of Fire for eternity. God reveals the truth.

So God is revealing truth to His people in these verses. He is saying that satan is like the prostitute, the whore, the harlot, the immoral woman. Satan is the stranger from outside the household of God who is tempting God's people into sin which leads to bondage, death, judgment and eternal fire. Satan puts on fake makeup, a wig and dresses up sin to look like something it isn't. Satan entices and cajoles and persuades. You must roll out your life, examine the paths you are walking and see where they lead.

Psalm 139:1-6   1 O LORD, You have searched me
and known me.
2 You know when I sit and when I rise;
You understand my thoughts from afar.
3 You search out my path and my lying down;
You are aware of all my ways.
4 Even before a word is on my tongue,
You know all about it, O LORD.
5 You hem me in behind and before;
You have laid Your hand upon me.
6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
too lofty for me to attain...
23 Search me, O God, and know my heart;
test me and know my concerns.
24 See if there is any offensive way in me;
lead me in the way everlasting.

That last verse asks God to see if there is any way in us that is offensive to God, hurtful, evil, wicked or destructive and lead me down a road, a path, a course to eternal life. God knows every intent of the heart.

Jeremiah 17:9-10  9 The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure—who can understand it? 10 I, the LORD, search the heart; I test the mind to reward a man according to his way, by what his deeds deserve.

Hebrews 4:13  Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight; everything is uncovered and exposed before the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.

Jeremiah 16:17  For My eyes are on all their ways. They are not hidden from My face, and their guilt is not concealed from My eyes.

Hosea 7:2  It never enters their heads that I will remember all this evil; but their sins surround them, and I cannot avoid seeing them.

Romans 2:5-12 But because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God's righteous judgment will be revealed. He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury. There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek

One sin is enough to send us to hell and we sin many times. We are not righteous enough to be acceptable to God and He knows it. We can't hide it behind fig leaves of deception and justifications. But we have a Savior who was perfect and sinless and He died for us to pay for our sins. If we accept Him and allow Him to cleanse us, we don't have to worry about God's judgment for there are no longer any sins for Him to see. It is good to keep a spiritual inventory and regularly check ourselves and let the Holy Spirit search us. If He brings to mind any sins, we can ask forgiveness and He always forgives.

Don't let your guard down because satan loves to exploit our weaknesses and tempt us in those areas. He can persuade and con you into believing it isn't really sin and there isn't any consequences. But we all have sin and there are always consequences so don't believe his lies and deceptions. Ask the Holy Spirit within you to remove and of satan's deceptions so that you can see the matter clearly and see how it ends and then to give you the strength to turn away from the path of wickedness and destruction and take the path of righteousness.


  • Have you ever relied on a fig leaf to cover your sin? Deception, hiding and trying to cover it up, justifying, excusing? Do you understand now that God knows all? There is nothing you can hide from Him? Does that scare you?
  • Have you asked Jesus to be your forgiver, you Savior and Lord of your life? If you have then you are saved and will not go to Hell and the Lake of Fire. If you haven't then your sins will send you to Hell and the Lake of Fire for eternity. It's that simple. You can pray now to be saved and forgiven!
  • When we are saved God gives His Holy Spirit to live within us to help us when satan tries to tempt us to sin. God has given us free will and He will not force you to do anything. He will lead and guide, but you have to choose whether or not to obey Him. When we choose to obey, the Holy Spirit empowers us to obey. When we choose to disobey and sin, we have consequences. We always have the option to change our mind and repent and God forgives. Thanks be to the God of mercy! Are you saved? If you are saved did you know God gave you His Word and His Spirit in order to help you? You don't have to be a slave to sin unless you choose to be. God has given us the wisdom (His Word) and the power (His Holy Spirit) to enable us when we choose to obey God (see 2 Peter 1:3).
  • Even Christians will face a judgment. We will have to account for our lives. We do NOT face Hell and the Lake of Fire because we are saved through Jesus Christ. But we will receive rewards. Jesus paid for our sins so that we have eternal life in Heaven. But all our works, words and thoughts will go through a fire of judgment and what comes out is silver and gold, heavenly rewards and treasure. 2 Corinthians 5:10  "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad". Matthew 12:36 "I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak." 1 Corinthians 3:12-15  "Now if any man builds upon the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, each man’s work will become evident; for the day will show it, because it is to be revealed with fire; and the fire itself will test the quality of each man’s work. If any man’s work which he has built upon it remains, he shall receive a reward. If any man’s work is burned up, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as through fire". What makes it through the fire (the pure silver, gold and precious stones) are our rewards. Did you realize there are two different judgments? The one where the unsaved are revealed and sent to Hell and the Lake of Fire and the one for Christians that judges our works, words and deeds and reveals our heavenly treasure.
  • Choosing sin leads to consequences and can end up in bondage to a sin. I gave you one example. Can you think of another example where sin leads to bondage and takes over the life of a person who continues to practise it?
  • Do you have a particular weakness towards a certain sin or sins? Journal about it. Why is it hard for you to disobey God in this area? Do you feel helpless when satan tempts you? Do you find yourself falling to it again and again?
  • Had you realized that God gave you two tools to help you be victorious over this sin? What are they?
  • If you make the choice to obey, God gives you the strength to obey. Have you experienced that help?
  • Had you ever thought about how our relationship with God is like a marriage? When we are saved, we become a child of God and we become one with Him. His Holy Spirit lives within us so we are identified with God. Satan is not a part of the family of God. He is a stranger to the household of God and he tries to seduce us away from God. He loves nothing better than to drive a wedge between God and His child. Satan is the harlot who tempts us to sin which hurts our relationship with God.
  • Take a spiritual inventory and ask God to search your heart and reveal anything in you that is offensive to Him. Then ask Jesus to forgive you and ask the Holy Spirit to help lead you in the right path.


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